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URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

Ryane J. Ziemba, one of the activists involved in today's protest at Easter Mass is currently being denied his medication.
Despite multiple requests for his inhaler Chicago Police at the 18th District (near Division and Halsted) are refusing to give Ryane Ziemba the medication. Ryane's friends are asking that people call the station at 312-742-5870. We also are asking that people maintain a physical presence in front of the jail until the Police allow Ryan to use his medication.
 
 

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Why pester Church-goers?

Church-goers should be pestered and church services should be disrupted because the people involved in such things are hypocrites. All religious communities claim to stand for moral values, and then when something as blatantly immoral as a war is happening, in all our names, that is when church leaders need to be outspoken against that shit. Take a stand, or shut the fuck up.
 

Re: Why pester Church-goers?

mm,

So you are one of those obnoxious armchair thugs? If anybody is entitled to stand for moral values within the Catholic community, then it's CATHOLICS themselves. Are these "Catholic Schoolgirl" clowns even practicing Catholics? Would they dare disrupt an Islamic religious service?

Yes, take a stand... organize your own event and lead by example. Pulling pranks in churches attended by harmless parishoners is just plain juvenile.
 

Re: Why pester Church-goers?

I have and will always oppose the war and I am a Catholic. Why should I be assulted in my own church ? A place where I have gone to pray for peace and understanding in the world.
 

Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

As of 730 the CPD at the 18th district claim that they cannot give Ryne his meds, but they they are having an emt check on him every so often. We are not sure if this is true or not. Also, the female bodied people have been moved to 18th and state. We believe they all will have a bond hearing as early as 9am tomorrow but possibly much later. Most likely the hearing will be at 26th and state. We will keep you updated
 

Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

Maybe when pro-life Christians stop pestering planned parenthood clinics, anti-war protesters will stop pestering Catholics.
 

Re: Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

FYI,

The Christians harassing abortion clinics are mostly EVANGELICALS.

"Pestered"... I dare you to disrupt a black church mass. You know, where homophobic sermons are very common. Well, it's easier to pester upper class whites, huh? Blacks would kick your ass royally.
 

Re: Re: Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

Actually, about three years ago a pastor of a West Suburban African American congregation announced during a service that the next week he was having a homophobic rally the next week in the church. An African American gay person stood up in the pews right after the pastor made the comment and loudly denounced the pastor for his homophobia and walked out of the service. The result? The homophobic hate fest was then cancelled.
 

Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

actually, prolife action league is catholic.

also, i think mm is incredibly immature and arrogant to attack 'church goers' like that. there are a billion catholics, a billion noncatholic christians and a billion muslims. attacking the followers of any huge faith is pretty stupid, isolating, and arrogant

and atheist, there are plenty of reasons to do this action- it was one of the most widely covered actions in chicago of the past week, and that should be enough. but cardinal francis george is also culpable for any number of the area's church hierarchy's problems, which include complacency in the face of this war.

also, for those attacking ryane for an arrestable action, hundreds of disabled activists took over downtown for several days last year, many of whom need meds. people who require medication have every right to resist and protest that anyone else does, and they are not to blame for a system of incarceration and brutality that does not respect their needs. remember may molina.

finally, thanks to the updater for the update. keep'em coming.
 

Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

Jeezus, atheist, you don't get out much. Think that televised religious services continue to remain a private function - without political content or impact? Or that religious figures can remain above the fray? Ask Jerimiah Wright.
 

Re: Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

I don't see a problem with confronting Cardinal George face-to-face in a non-religious setting. The issue at hand is simple: a bunch of jerks harassed, pestered and attacked parishoners who were attending a ceremony unrelated to the war. The only thing these idiots achieved is allienating potential and current allies.
 

Re: Re: Re: URGENT! Activist Arrested this morning DENIED MEDS

No doubt this alienated a number of folks in the audience at Holy Name. Every protest alienates someone on the scene .. like it or not. Shoppers on Michigan Ave. Passerbys in Federal Plaza. Drivers who are re-reouted because of permitted parade routes. Shoppers who are perturbed by having to cross strikers union picketlines at the supermarket. And decades ago, white working class diners sitting at a lunch counter in Mississippi.

Like it or not, Easter mass at Holy Name has been a public spectacle - with television cameras on the scene - for literally decades in this town. ( so is Easter Mass in Vatican City, in case you've missed it ) And George, like it or not - is a public figure who has taken a conciliatory approach toward George Bush. Would that other religious folks muster the courage to speak up from the audience at their churches, synagogues and mosques against the incredible death and destruction unfolding in Iraq and help shatter the complancy they may find there.
 
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