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We say NO to...October 27 sham

The Chicago chapter of the International Solidarity Movement urges principled individuals and organizations to consider organizing alternative protests around the city rather than participating in the bogus "anti-war" event being organized by United For Peace and Justice along with Chicagoans Against War on Iraq.
The march and rally planned for October 27th has organizers boasting that they have over 100 endorsing organizations. The list is long but we have to wonder why organizations with a history of progressive politics and action would endorse an event that will showcase those that continue to vote for more funding of wars (or some like Obama that simply don’t vote to avoid the political heat)? By inviting speakers that continue to vote in support of more funding for war and an amendment (the Kyl-Lieberman amendment) that the Bush administration can use as justification for an attack on Iran the UFPJ and CAWI organizers are disrespecting U.S. troops that are dying in the current military adventure and the people of the Middle East. We urge endorsing organizations of the October 27 event to demand that the invitations to Daley, Durbin and Obama be withdrawn.

Invited speakers include:

Mayor Daley: militarization of Chicago Public School system, was Cook County States Attorney during many of the years that CPT Lt. Jon Burge tortured false confessions from mainly African-American men, responsible for mass arrests of activists when the Iraq War started

Senator Durbin: The short-list: Voted for Kyl-Lieberman amendment that now gives George W. Bush the justification to launch an attack on Iran, has consistently voted in support of U.S. tax-dollars to Israel to continue the illegal occupation of Palestine and just voted on October 1st to OK another $150 billion dollars for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

Senator Obama: has voted to fund the occupation. Not present for vote on Kyl-Lieberman amendment (see above), did not vote either way on October 1 when another $150 billion for the current wars was authorized and (like Durbin) has been kissing the rear end of the Israeli lobby in this country

Some questions:
Which of the three invited Democratic speakers named above is doing anything to bring the troops home now and stop a U.S. attack on Iran?
Does anyone believe the mainstream corporate media will show any speakers at the rally other than the
elected officials?

Why should principled organizations and individual activists be used to promote political whores who continue to vote for war and occupation?

If you actually participate in this sham demonstration how will you live with your conscience unless you jeer the politicians until they leave the stage?


Instead of listening to spineless Democrats and their collaborators we urge groups and individuals to:

*do expressway actions throughout the city and suburbs
--see www.freewayblogger.com/ & freewayblogger28.cf.huffingtonpost.com

*hold "Honk for Troops Out Now" events at major intersections around Chicago

*hold meetings to discuss NONVIOLENT DIRECT ACTION to really target the war makers in both major political parties

*do mass leafleting at street corners, neighborhood events, concerts, etc. to promote the CCAWR Emergency Response Protest in the event that the U/S. or Israel launches an attack on Iran
www.ccawr.org/uploads/resources/13.pdf
 
 

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Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Thank you for stating this. I say YES to alternative protests rather than participating in the "bogus "anti-war" event being organized by United For Peace and Justice along with Chicagoans Against War on Iraq."
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

In any protest with multiple organizations,we are going to be able to pick out things we dont like about the "other guys". Take "Republicans against the war" or the different evangelical anti-war groups. Why not just meet under the one common denominator: protesting to end the war now.

One of the ways that conservatives get what they want is by uniting under issues, despite differences in the various conservative subgroups. The agnostic conservatives who love war got together with the religious conservatives who love war (as well as the group of conservatives who pretend to be religious). Together they got what they wanted: war. If they had not been able to join together to sell the war, then it would not have happened. You've got to hand it to the cons: they know how to join together to create misery and profit.

So can't those in every group who wants an end to this war just get together on the 27th, no matter how much we could disagree with them about the other issues and things in the past?
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Unless I'm misunderstanding something I've read, the question here is precisely why people like Daley, Durbin, and Obama - all of whom have manifestly demonstrated their pro-war stance - are being invited to address an anti-war rally, and whether this is an effective strategy for ending the war. This is neither an "other" issue, nor or a "thing in the past"; it is THE issue.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

A lot of folks I've talked to who are increasingly ticked off about the character of this event are planning on marching, but leaving early when the march arrives at Fed. Plaza - depending on the final program, which has yet to be announced. It also looks there will be a lot of other activity throughout the day - the banner drops and other suggestions listed by ISM may pick up traction in the days ahead.

And if the politicians who just voted for war funding actually show up, a public display of disgust wouldn't hurt. These assholes deserve it. Turn your back, boo, hiss, chant, drum, haul out your whistle, get a fog horn, think performance art. Have fun. Be creative. Just don't remain passive participants if this degenerates into another worthless spectacle.

I'm also planning on going to hear Dahr Jamail speak that evening at UIC. He has not - as far as I know - been invited to speak at the rally.

An independent radical journalist who has covered Iraq and the Middle East, Jamail has seen it first hand. He writes for the Inter Press Service, The Asia Times, and many other outlets. His reports have been published in the Nation, The Sunday Herald, The Guardian, Foreign Policy in Focus, and The Independent, among other publications.

He'll be speaking at UIC at 7:00 PM
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

END THE FUCKING WARS

NO MORE DAMN EXCUSES

FUCK THE DEMOCRAPS (the other War Party)
 

Daley is scum, the organizers must have 0 principles

"And if the politicians who just voted for war funding actually show up, a public display of disgust wouldn't hurt. These assholes deserve it. Turn your back, boo, hiss, chant, drum, haul out your whistle, get a fog horn, think performance art. Have fun. Be creative. Just don't remain passive participants if this degenerates into another worthless spectacle."

i dont like any of the three, but how do they think that they can get away with Daley? what an unscrupulous effort if ever there was one.

i think we should go to their little campaign rally and give any of these invited tools (and especially Daley) as big a what-for as possible. embarass them and embarass CAWI for inviting them.

for example, if they were inviting hillary clinton or dick cheney, a lot of anti-war activists would protest their protest. well, how are these two senators (and especially Da Mare) any better?

frankly, its an insult to the unarmed Black men who have been killed this year (and for the last 17 years), the police torture victims, the public school teachers and the county health care workers who have lost their jobs, the students who have lost their schools, the patients who have lost their county clinics, people threatened with the elimination of their buses, the 800-900 arrested on march 20 '03, and pretty much the large majority of the city who are victims of this man's regime. CAWI is spitting in our faces. let's spit back.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Yeah let's put a great bug divide in the anti-war community, I mean who the hell are they that would invite people downtown to an anti-war rally and not be on my particular brand of leftis, let alone not inviting my favorite speakers, from the issues that I really care about.

Damn what the hell are they thinking trying to get the middle to come out, what the hell are they trying to do getting school teachers and firemen to come out and protest the war, bastards.

I really appreciate when the anti-war community is so divided that no one will support each particular issue that really needs to be put forward, especially I like when MY group decides that the hosts of a protest are not far left enough, or god forbid, communists that want a different style revolution or that aren't for anti-authoritanism, damn what bastards THEY are.

In fact, I'm going to stay home on October 27th, and definitely not try to get a message out, cause if I'm down there where those people are coming forward, possibly for the first time, I sure wouldn't want a dialogue, and an opportunity to put forward my position on any particular issue.
 

Re: Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Just who the hell do you think HAS been coming out to antiwar protests over the past 5 years? Not only for the downtown cattle drives, but in neighborhoods across the city. We ARE teachers and city paramedics, RN's and sanitation workers, electricians, plumbers and temps, cab drivers and clerical workers, college and high school students from all over the city . We are Iraq war vets and family members of those loved ones have paid the ultimate price for this war. We are African American and Latino, Puerto Rican and Mexican, Irish and Arab, Muslims and Jews, Christians and pagans, atheists and agnostics.

We are NOT paid union bureaucrats, politicians on the make, self-appointed pundits, NGO staffers on the grant gravy train or well heeled media consultants with fat city contracts eager to pimp the antiwar movement for a little street cred in an election year. And that's who are calling the shots for this rally. And we'll see if they can deliver.
 

Re: Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Pimps? Who don't turn out anyone?

Listen to yourself, and you'll see what the problem is?

It's going to take all these people you have disdain for, and a lot more you have even more disdain for, to end this war. If you're not up to the task of finding ways to unite with them, others will.

That's the whole point, isn't it?
 

Re: Re: Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

"It's going to take all these people you have disdain for, and a lot more you have even more disdain for, to end this war."

One small problem: They don't act to end the war!!!

So we're going to end the war by uniting with those who vote to fund the war or do nothing to bring it to an end. Hmm...

Forgive me, but I thought the point was to END THE WAR.
 

Re: Re: Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

So you push a little, and they come to YOUR demo, under YOUR banner, and add their voice, or even more.

That's an action, isn't it? Even if small and late?

Then once they do it, you work with them to do more.

Time to get serious...and break out of 'left blocism', for want of a better term, and seek to mobilize all trends in the antiwar majority.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

ah, In the words of op-ivy...

sure all these politicians suck, but it would be a good chance to hold their feet to the fire. I think we should build for this day of action. I believe that any actions in the chi this day are good, so I don't object to the ideas (except for the meeting idea for direct action (there should not be meetings but actual action that day). As far as a sham, well... I think we need to acknowledge and respect a 'diversity of tactics' If you can't stomach these politicians speaking well... do your own action that will contribute to the overall message-- troops out now, no more silent anti-war majority, its time to act. Do that action on the 27th. Figure it out has a good point btw
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Right on hs you put these such and suchs in their place. Thank you! These white liberal, pro-democrap, self-appointed "fearless leaders" are inviting asshole politicians that don't call for complete, immediate withrawal, if they support complete withdrawl at all. Shouldn't an event against the war only have speakers for immediate, complete withdrawl which is what the vast majority of peace activists want? We are the ones that day in and day out fight against these damn wars supported by davison's friends the democraps. Inving de facto pro-war politicians is a slap in the face at activists in this city who care more about ending the war more than keeping a parasitic, daley machine connected job.

What of Rachel Herbener, on another post, informing us that the parasites that fearlessly organize for Oct 27 are meeting Thursdays at 8:30am. How many working people can make such a meeting. Doesn't such a meeting insure that only those, priviledged enough not to have real jobs, can make it. It excludes the vast majority of prople! For what other reason than insuring that only like minded, well-healed , overwhelinhgly white types can make it. Why not at night or on weekends?

Lets end the war machine with a militant Mass Movement. Not once or twice a year feel good events to southe the quilt of not doing anything the reat of the year, 364 days. We all got do something to build the Movement every week. If Oct. 27, gives all those people, nothing to do together real soon, it will be nearly worthless. Historic my ass! Feb. 15, 2003 was historic, Oct. 27 2007 is a speck compsres to then. Much less the two days after the war started. Way too little. Way to late!
 

Re: We say NO to...closed-mindedness

I think George Bush and Dick Cheney should be invited.

If they want to come to Chicago and apologize for all of the death and destruction they've caused, announce an immediate end to the war, and explain how they're going to bring all of our troops home now and what they're going to do to make reparations to all of the people in the US and Iraq who have been harmed by this war, I for one would welcome it.

I mean... I don't think they'd do it. But if they did, I wouldn't complain.

I don't see why Durbin, Obama, or Daley shouldn't be there. I think EVERYBODY should be there.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

i think the best thing would be to attend these rallies and expose the hypocracy of inviting pro war, union busting politicians. the idea that this is splitting or dividing the movement may be the funniest thing i will hear today. of course inviting prowar politicians to an anti war rally isnt divisive, it is the oppposition to this maneuver that is, do i understand that correctly?

we know that the anti war movment has been a lauching pad for the democratic party from the get go and even now, after years of their prowar votes we are still being routed back into this second major capitalist party as an "alternative" to the war they have funded from the start.

thats a good one.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

The question still stands, Why are the Oct. 27 planning meetings at 8:30 am on Thursdays if Rachel is right? To keep us non-democraps away?
 

We Can Do Better

The next time someone says "Let's have a march in DC" or "Let's do a die-in," put your hand on their shoulder in a gentle, supportive way, and then smack them upside the head. Our methods aren't working, and they haven't worked for years, so let's move on and get creative about this before the war rolls on for another five years and we wind up looking back and asking why, oh why, a bunch of us walking down a street in a vacant city on a weekend a dozen times didn't change the course of history.

www.actionmill.com/node/58765
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

The only thing I've seen these "uniters" do is mitigate the outrage over the war, literally blame Iraqis for the violence and destruction there, and sap the energy from the hundreds of thousands who were taking action to fight the war on many fronts.
Bringing people closer to the sham that is American electoral politics will most likely lead to more disillusionment and apathy.
Isn't this really all about raising money for commercials?
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

Hey Carl these guys oppose the war to maybe you should get the a speaker www.nambla.org/iraq1.htm
www.davidduke.com/index.php

Not every one who opposes the war is on my side. Politicians who vote for war should never ever be asked to speak at an anti war rally, EVER. You should be ashamed of yourselves for inviting these people to represent our movement. The are are better ways to broaden the movement, inviting war profiteers is not one of them.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

You miss the point, Rocky.

We're not inviting speakers 'to represent OUR movement,' but to pull in all forces opposing the war, to isolate Bush and the warmakers, and bring it to an end sooner rather than later.

The goal is to bring out those who haven't been brought out before, and to leave new levels of organization and alliances afterwards.

Not too complicated--unless you're determined just of have a coalition of the left only.

A good number won't represent my politics, or yours, but that's not the point, is it?

And your David Duke ploy is just that, a red herring. But it's past time for serious people to get serious, and replace posturing with politics that can achieve our goal of ending the war.

If you have a better plan, spell it out.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

The question that occurs to me at the moment is how are CAWI & UFPJ planning on protecting the invited Democratic speakers from being confronted by an angry crowd while speaking? My guess is security will be handled by union personnel and nobody will get banners within 20 feet of the stage.
 

Re: We say NO to...October 27 sham

The anti-evertythings amaze me. Expending this much energy for so little output must defy the laws of thermodynamics.
 
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