Oh COME ON. Even CIMC editors know this is horseshit. "Taken it upon themselves to patrol the Mexico and United States borders to kill any person they deem to be illegally entering the country"

Are you fucking SERIOUS? Evidence, boys. C'mon. Bring it.

I know you're sore that your fascist shock-troops got pinched, but you've got to keep some focus, here. Tell us the truth, maybe?

Do you have any names? I know several that were at that event.

Prole99,

Racist killers? The Minutemen are planning to kill any person they deem to be illegally entering the country? LOL! Are you aware of the immense stupidity you have written?

I know of at least one person that was released on 100 dollars bail. Im not sure about the other 4 but I will try to update later with more news... or if anyone else has news post it up. The police tactics were cowardly and shameful, attacking a crowd of people when families with elderly and children present. Please help out.

3 people have been released...it is believed that one or two more people may still be in jail.

there were 7 arrests, my crew bailed out 2 of them.

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after just speaking with one of the released arrestees, it is still not clear who if anyone is still in jail.

Are the racist killers the ones patrolling the boarder, or the ones who commit crimes in other countries and then try to come here, and usually commit more crime here? Stopping ALL immigration is one thing, but I don't want other countries trash here, doesn't matter what race. Like the trash that shot this guy when they tried to come here. His mom spoke today at the rally.

www.kriseggle.org

Oh COME ON. Even CIMC editors know this is horseshit. "Taken it upon themselves to patrol the Mexico and United States borders to kill any person they deem to be illegally entering the country"

Are you fucking SERIOUS? Evidence, boys. C'mon. Bring it.

I know you're sore that your fascist shock-troops got pinched, but you've got to keep some focus, here. Tell us the truth, maybe?

Prole99,

Racist killers? The Minutemen are planning to kill any person they deem to be illegally entering the country? LOL! Are you aware of the immense stupidity you have written?

as much as it would be great to give money to another RCP front, make sure it actually goes to the people in jail.

I don't know if the minutemen actually killed anyone, they seem to mostly piss off the border patrol by setting off alarms.

I'm not fascist. I just don't want gangs and drugs and violence in the US caused by criminals fleeing charges in other countries. And anyone who knows about boarder patrol knows a lot of cocaine and marijuana come here across the boarders. That's the REAL reason you liberal hippies want no boarders, you need your fix.

Once again, the Minutemen condemne racism and refuses to accept help or donation from those people, as stated on their website homepage.

Border = a line between states, countries, zones, etc
Boarder = someone renting space in your house.

Here's the Herald's aritcle on the protests:
dailyherald.com/story.asp

Arrested Saturday for battery and resisting arrest were Cynthia L. Gomez, 28, Rehana F. Kahn, 23, Kara K. Norlander, 23, Marco A. Quiroz-Rojas, 29, and Eric W. Zenke, 18, all of Chicago. All were released after posting $100 bail. Their court dates are all Dec. 1 at the courthouse in Rolling Meadows.

that school the "Christian" academy teraches gun operation and gun cleaning at some of the after school and church related activities. they do drills and marching excersizes in the basement.

this is no joke!

they are essentially christian identity movement people, white supremacists.

because as you all know god pre-ordained that the u.s supplant the savage natives and spread his kingdom through genocide.

many of the arlington hts. police department officers are directly involved in the church affiliated with this school.

the village of arlington heights received a huge award from president reagan for their american-ness in the 80's. it was like 10 million dollars or something. i can't remember what it's called but it's something like the -all american city- grant or something.

yeah.. that's reagan country big-time.

it's a shame that such an important issue has to be represented by such a bunch of knuckleheads like the rcp.

it's like one extremist fighting another. making the whole human rights community look like idiots

that school the "Christian" academy teraches gun operation and gun cleaning at some of the after school and church related activities. they do drills and marching excersizes in the basement.

this is no joke!

they are essentially christian identity movement people, white supremacists.

because as you all know god pre-ordained that the u.s supplant the savage natives and spread his kingdom through genocide.

many of the arlington hts. police department officers are directly involved in the church affiliated with this school.

the village of arlington heights received a huge award from president reagan for their american-ness in the 80's. it was like 10 million dollars or something. i can't remember what it's called but it's something like the -all american city- grant or something.

yeah.. that's reagan country big-time.

www.homeschools.org/community/competitions.html

look how they teach their kids how to use the bible to justify war. it's really very sick, very very un-well, in a psychiatric sense.

notice what the one young girls says about the nazi's: "Some, like the Nazis in Germany during World War II, went to war to conquer the world. They were blinded by their greed for power."

true, but not a word about genocide. the reason is because they do not teach the kids that genocide is wrong, and the reason for that is they do not want the kids to be aware yet that genocide is also part of the overal plan of the radical christian right.

all these essays look like gw bush speeches.. they are like little robots.

it's really important to let your hearts go out to these kids. they are just brainwashed kids. of course, trying to reach them with an obnoxious rcp protest is not really helpful, but someone out there will use their heads and find a way.

here is what this same young person says about iraq: "Throughout the Bible, God used nations to bring justice upon governments that oppressed and abused their people, especially the weak and the innocent. Before the United States invasion, Iraq was a land filled with oppression and fear. As he had done when he gassed Iraq’s Northern Kurds, Saddam Hussein was continuing to treat his people like less than the masterpieces of a great God. In order to maintain his hold on the government of Iraq, he imprisoned, tortured, and killed anyone who opposed him."

ok, so then have a forum at your school supporting the minutemen, and do nothing about the fact you live in cook county, where the states attorney. is responsible for one of the biggest torture conspiracies in the world.

here is something from a 15 year-old young girl who is VERY confused about jesus' position on war: "In the New Testament we see an entirely different picture. Here is Jesus, the lowly Servant of God, come to save His people in a totally different way than they had hoped. He did not overthrow the Roman tyranny but instead waged war in the hearts of men. Many depict Jesus as a pacifist, one who despises all hostility, but Jesus Himself declared, “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father...[4]” Still, some believe that although war was acceptable under the Old Testament law, it no longer is acceptable under Jesus’ new covenant. Jesus contradicted this when He said, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law...I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.[5]” Jesus came to bring peace to the hearts of men during distress, not to undo the earlier commandments of God.[6]"

that is so messed up because no where does that passage say jesus came to fulfill war, it says he came to fulfill law. and there are just whole chapters and paragraphs in the bible completely committed to warning christians about getting involved in the "worldly affairs of men". this means precisely politics and war. it means that true christians should NOT be getting involved in politics and war.

it's so very twisted and sick. remember to think of these little kids as victims, not enemies.

www.homeschools.org/community/classSpirit.html

look at the "chargers logo" and the description of the charger by the athletic director.

Here is what they believe in regards to the united states:

Beliefs Concerning the United States
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We believe that our Creator has endowed us “with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

We believe in a constitutional republic as set up by our founding fathers and the citizens’ responsibilities inherent in such. [except i guess the part about public education and the separation of church and state, but we know they love GUNS.. oh yeah.. GUNS GUNS GUNS]

We believe that individual responsibility and a free economy is the best way to achieve the highest standard of living for all men.

We believe in combating socialism, godless Communism, and all forms of collectivistic tyranny alien to our way of life. [except of course their own collectivist tyranny they have every intention of enforcing on the rest of us and will do so unless we expose their violent intentions.]

Here is the Church of Christian Liberty Statement of Faith:

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To worship the one true God as revealed in the Holy Scriptures

To preach the "whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27) to the mutual edification and instruction of members and other believers

To disciple members

To celebrate salvation through the sacraments of the Lord's supper and baptism

To instruct children in the Word of God

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To present the Gospel to the lost through work on the mission fields, at home and abroad

To challenge God's people to subdue all areas of life and thought to the absolute dominion of God's laws

To provide charity and compassion to the poor and needy

To further the spirit of Christian patriotism and the upholding of our God-given freedoms contained in, among other places, the Constitution of the United States of America. [except i guess the part about public education and the separation of church and state, but we know they love GUNS.. oh yeah.. GUNS GUNS GUNS]

there was a diversity of viewpoints at the protest. just because the RCP brought more papers does not mean they were the only ones out there or that they were the only ones organizing.

come on people.

kind of a stretch isn't it? accusing someone critical of the rcp as a red-baiter? it's not like theyare proletarians or something.. they are a bunch of dumb frustrated kids.

jeez.

RCP were one of many that were out there. And yes, there was no history, no context, in the papers about WHY people could possibly be so agitated about a bunch of twerps running around with broken crosses on their armbands. Same with the Toledo coverage - oh - that was a "turf war". It was nauseating. It seems that they are trying to acclimate us to vigilante groups running around espousing genocide and extrajudicial murder.

P.S. I can't believe so many of you guys are still so busy tearing down the RCP. All that time and energy you waste flapping your lips, tearing down a positive energy that if you had any brains you would be using to achieve your own ends. But no, you've gotta tear people down that are fighting ON YOUR SIDE. You make me sick.

For the poster who thought the murdering was some leftie's hysterical daydream - there are much more recent killings - just google it. There is a problem that some of the killings are taking place in the deep desert - the bodies are never recovered.

Minuteman Violence in New Mexico
by La Voz de Aztlan Monday, Jun. 20, 2005 at 1:50 AM


Border vigilante murders Mexican near Columbus, New Mexico

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May 9, 2005

Vigilante assault on Mexican immigrants kills one

A USA masked vigilante with an assault rifle and military fatigues attacked a group of 18 Mexican immigrants on the border near Columbus, New Mexico yesterday. According to a report today by the Attorney General of Chihuahua, Patricia Gonzalez, one or more armed vigilantes, from the US side of the border, stopped a vehicle carrying 18 Mexican immigrants attempting to cross the border near the "Palomas, Chihuahua/Columbus, New Mexico" port of entry. The vigilante in a ski mask forcefully stopped their car and ordered the immigrants out of the vehicle and then proceeded to shoot the driver point blank, killing Apolinar Ortega Sanchez. The murderer who spoke in "broken Spanish" then ran to a vehicle waiting for him and raced to the USA side of the border according to the survivors. Attorney General Patricia Gonzalez is investigating the possibility that the assault was part of the Minutemen operations that took place along the Mexico/Arizona border and that are now moving westward.

The attack by a gringo in military fatigues and with a military assault rifle brings memories of the attack on Mexican women and children by James Oliver Huberty on July 18, 1984 at a McDonald's Restaurant at the SanYsidro/Tijuana border. According to Huberty's wife, the mass anti-Mexican murderer said to her in the morning of the massacre, "Society's had their chance. I'm going hunting. Hunting humans." Huberty open fire on unsuspecting Mexican families killing 22, mostly women and children. The racist Huberty had blamed Mexican immigrants for his inability to get a job. In June, the Minutemen vigilantes are planning to commence anti-Mexican operations in the vicinity of the "McDonald's Massacre".

If the anti-Mexican hate campaign by the English language media continues, we will certainly experienced worse hate crimes against our community. There are many mentally deficient gringos that believe everything they read, view or hear in the printed media, television and hate radio such as Disney owned KABC 790 AM in Los Angeles and they can be easily stirred into a "killing frenzy" by racist propaganda. Presently, Los Angeles commuters are being terrorized by shootings on our freeways and many believe they may be race related. The large percentage of the shootings victims are Latinos, which in LA means most probably Mexicans.

La Voz de Aztlan hopes that the latest vigilante shooting of a Mexican immigrant near Columbus, New Mexico is not an ominous omen. Near by is the Pancho Villa State Park that commemorates General Francisco Villa's military excursion into US territory on March 9, 1916.
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Thank you for providing that article.
Is that killing confirmed anywhwere? where would I get the info about it?
I don't get how saying becareful who you donate to becomes redbaiting or whatever. is everyone so sensitive now that saying anything about the messed up dictator worshiping groups is now not allowed? And I wasn't even saying any of that in my previous post anyways!

The blockade of the side entrance did not, unfortunately, receive total support from all the protesters in that spot. The PLP (Progressive Labor Party), for instance, were too busy standing on the sidelines chanting monotonously for "Communist Revolution" to help out by linking arms. One of them actually pulled back a comrade of his who was getting too close to the action, telling him he was needed elsewhere. I left before noon, however, so it's possible they might have helped out later.

There's no denying that the Minuteman Project is repulsive, dangerous, and must be publicly confronted as people did just a few days ago in Arlington Heights. And it goes without saying that the underlying racism and anti-immigrant paranoia inherent in their ideological perspective must be exposed along with the vigilante nature of their actions. However, I've
been following their actions for some time now and have seen no evidence whatsoever that they've killed anyone. The article above that talks about violence in the desert mentions a lone, PERHAPS several, armed vigilante(s). This in and of itself is not enough to make the claim that the Minutemen are killing people. If you have credible evidence to the contrary then please provide it....otherwise let's just stick to the facts. We lose our own credibility when we resort to sensationalism and hyperbole and in all honesty it's not necessary in order to make a compelling case against the Minutemen. There's plenty of ammunition to use against them located within the pages of their own website and I've included the link below so that people can get a better idea of what we're up against.

www.minutemanhq.com/project/index.html