AMEN to that.
It's the "protest all you want as long as I'm not affected by it" approach.
The b.s. that the "church" is against the war is also a crock. It's part of the problem.

I would really like to know why every single action that falls outside the lines of a police-permitted march is looked at as juvenile and privileged?
No, not every single action outside of the police-permitted march type is juvenile. This one in the church, however, was.

I'd like to also put in here that those arrested, as well as myself and the others who support them, have been on since at least year one…
So what? Aside from "waking up sooner," or being dedicated, does this make you a better person, or is this something that really turns on the manic-progressive girls when you casually mention your years of dedicated protest? Someone who participates later can actually be a better and more dedicated protester/resister/propagandist.

Don't brush us off as inconsiderate and unproductive just because some people were fed up enough to up the ante.
Way to up the ante. You really won over a lot of hearts and minds with your well-reasoned and philosophical protests. I'm sure everyone at the church understood the intended message loud and clear. I'm sure they were enlightened to the issues and even experienced an epiphany of understanding beyond even the faith they were in church to practice, and they didn't just see a bunch of kooks splattering blood on themselves and ejaculating code words out of their mouths.

That's what resistance is supposed to be about; actual public resistance to the corrupt and fucked up order of things.
Well, I agree that "resistance" should actually resist something concrete, with the principles strongly defined and supported.

In conclusion, let me re-add some of my previous comments about the protesters themselves that some enlightened individual on this site felt the need to delete: Many think that these protesters were brave and daring, but I really think they wimped out. If they had any testicular/ovarian fortitude, they would have performed a glorious act of self-immolation by lighting themselves on fire, just like our hero—a great man who is a concrete example of what we value— Malachi Ritscher.

So what? Aside from "waking up sooner," or being dedicated, does this make you a better person, or is this something that really turns on the manic-progressive girls when you casually mention your years of dedicated protest? Someone who participates later can actually be a better and more dedicated protester/resister/propagandist.
When in response to someone who snidely brags about being "on since the fourth year", yes it does matter. It's important to bring up that that though you all may look down on these protesters as inexperienced and shallow, they have been working towards the same things as you have, in some cases, for longer periods of time. Perhaps you're scared of an actual movement towards change? Also, your sexist and somehow desensitized attitude towards others (particularly with conditions which you do not have yourself) doesn't prove your case. Could you possibly imagine that this post was written by a female-bodied person who has, on occasion, suffered from episodes of manic depression? Do either of those things make my ideas and emotions less valid. Apparently, to you, they do.

Way to up the ante. You really won over a lot of hearts and minds with your well-reasoned and philosophical protests. I'm sure everyone at the church understood the intended message loud and clear. I'm sure they were enlightened to the issues and even experienced an epiphany of understanding beyond even the faith they were in church to practice, and they didn't just see a bunch of kooks splattering blood on themselves and ejaculating code words out of their mouths.
Perhaps this didn't change everyone's mind, and in fact, those most appalled will always be the loudest in the case of mainstream media coverage, but why do we need them anyways? Honestly, I'd take everything with a grain of salt… But if you look at the Fox News and Examiner website forums, you'll see that a lot of people are in favor of what they did. And, I mean, just look at what Kathy Kelly has to say. Bring the war home. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Personally miffed by this foray beyond the bounds of approved and polite dissent? Well, that's too damn bad. Beyond rant time on your keyboard, what risks have you taken personally to end the carnage in Iraq ?

I thought not. Come back when you have something real to offer.