Do the math, Frank. 27 years. I wasn't around to witness every dumbass, indefensible protest during the Vietnam War era.
As for your defense of the tactic of disrupting religious services to make a political point; it's a tactic of those people who despair of revolutionary, working class action ever taking place, and who believe that somehow a well-timed stupid grandstanding move on national TV will have a greater impact than, say, the hot-cargoing of war materiel by the Longshoremen's Union.
I just want to make sure that everyone in the world who comes here to Chicago Indymedia find out about this misguided protest understands that it is not an acceptable form of protest as far as the Marxist, Trotskyist movement is concerned. This was an action taken by a small group of well-intentioned activists who chose a spectacularly inappropriate way to raise the issue of opposition to the war in Iraq. Which opposition, by the way is favored by some 70% of the electorate these days, according to the polls.
It was as wrong to disrupt religious services in the 1800's, 1920s, 1930s, '40s, '50s, '60s, '70s etc., as it is today, according to my understanding of Marxism and the history of the workers movement. I'm sure that the actions you speak of, from the 1970's, engendered quite a bit of criticism from the workers movement even back then.
There's a big difference between intervening in a public forum from which your ideas are being excluded and disrupting a religious service - don't you agree?
And the track record of Varlet's specific political trend on the Left in the past two decades has been exactly what?
Hundreds of thousands of union workers flocking to join the revolutionary movement ? Demonstrations against the war numbering in the millions? US ports closed because of militant industrial action being taken by militant dockworkers to blockade the war machine? A vibrant Trotskyist workers party ready to provide leadership and inspiration, rather than splintering into a uncipherable 3-way split every time party membership soars into triple digits?
Re: 3/23: Peace Protesters Stage Dramatic Die-in to Oppose Iraq War at City's Most Prominent Catholic Parish
23 Mar 2008
Date Edited: 23 Mar 2008 10:14:18 PM
As for your defense of the tactic of disrupting religious services to make a political point; it's a tactic of those people who despair of revolutionary, working class action ever taking place, and who believe that somehow a well-timed stupid grandstanding move on national TV will have a greater impact than, say, the hot-cargoing of war materiel by the Longshoremen's Union.
I just want to make sure that everyone in the world who comes here to Chicago Indymedia find out about this misguided protest understands that it is not an acceptable form of protest as far as the Marxist, Trotskyist movement is concerned. This was an action taken by a small group of well-intentioned activists who chose a spectacularly inappropriate way to raise the issue of opposition to the war in Iraq. Which opposition, by the way is favored by some 70% of the electorate these days, according to the polls.
It was as wrong to disrupt religious services in the 1800's, 1920s, 1930s, '40s, '50s, '60s, '70s etc., as it is today, according to my understanding of Marxism and the history of the workers movement. I'm sure that the actions you speak of, from the 1970's, engendered quite a bit of criticism from the workers movement even back then.
There's a big difference between intervening in a public forum from which your ideas are being excluded and disrupting a religious service - don't you agree?
Varlet
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Re: Re: 3/23: Peace Protesters Stage Dramatic Die-in to Oppose Iraq War at City's Most Prominent Catholic Parish
23 Mar 2008
Hundreds of thousands of union workers flocking to join the revolutionary movement ? Demonstrations against the war numbering in the millions? US ports closed because of militant industrial action being taken by militant dockworkers to blockade the war machine? A vibrant Trotskyist workers party ready to provide leadership and inspiration, rather than splintering into a uncipherable 3-way split every time party membership soars into triple digits?
LOL.