No differences that make a difference on the war between Hayden of the CIA and Rush, Davis, Gutierrez and Schakowsky? Really? You just make yourself look silly with that position...
No, I wouldn't go for Hayden, but I'd consider any number of top CIA guys who have been 'eased out' over the war.
In the end, a Democratic or Republican President will sign the troop pullout order, and/or a Democratic Congress will cut off the money. The people themselves are the engine for getting from here to there, but we need the order-signers and fund-cutters at the top, too, don't we?
That should be easy to answer. Figuring 'how' all out, step-by-step, is a little harder.
"No differences that make a difference on the war between Hayden of the CIA" and the congresspeople?
Now you're putting words in my mouth, Carl. Hayden hasn't voted any funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, whereas the congresspeople voted unanimously for it the last two times.
I was just suggesting that since the primary consideration in choosing press conference and rally speakers seems to be their celebrity status (as opposed to what they've actually DONE against the war), you might want to book Hayden, who's a rising star. After all, that seems to have been the consideration for choosing Daley, who also can't vote against war funding, but is happy to violate the civil liberties of anti-war and police brutality activists time and again in this city.
If you and I, say, and a few other radicals, call a press conference calling on Chicagoans to take to the streets Oct 27 for 'Out Now,' it's hardly 'news' and I seriously doubt if anyone would come, let alone run a story.
But add a few Members of Congress, Alderman, top labor leaders, CBO leaders with a long history here, as well as a few radicals, to deliver the same message, all out for 'Out Now' on the 27th, then at least you have a shot at getting some media coverage.
And thus a bigger turnout--it's a no-brainer to me.
Of course, one never knows.
Brittany may have another fender bender that day, or OJ might get busted for something, and the we're all scooped and marginalized for REAL NEWS!, even with our handful of politicians.
Re: 10/22: Local Congressmen to Announce 10/27 Mobilization
20 Oct 2007
Date Edited: 20 Oct 2007 03:58:29 PM
No differences that make a difference on the war between Hayden of the CIA and Rush, Davis, Gutierrez and Schakowsky? Really? You just make yourself look silly with that position...
No, I wouldn't go for Hayden, but I'd consider any number of top CIA guys who have been 'eased out' over the war.
In the end, a Democratic or Republican President will sign the troop pullout order, and/or a Democratic Congress will cut off the money. The people themselves are the engine for getting from here to there, but we need the order-signers and fund-cutters at the top, too, don't we?
That should be easy to answer. Figuring 'how' all out, step-by-step, is a little harder.
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Re: Re: 10/22: Local Congressmen to Announce 10/27 Mobilization
20 Oct 2007
Now you're putting words in my mouth, Carl. Hayden hasn't voted any funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, whereas the congresspeople voted unanimously for it the last two times.
I was just suggesting that since the primary consideration in choosing press conference and rally speakers seems to be their celebrity status (as opposed to what they've actually DONE against the war), you might want to book Hayden, who's a rising star. After all, that seems to have been the consideration for choosing Daley, who also can't vote against war funding, but is happy to violate the civil liberties of anti-war and police brutality activists time and again in this city.
Re: Re: 10/22: Local Congressmen to Announce 10/27 Mobilization
20 Oct 2007
If you and I, say, and a few other radicals, call a press conference calling on Chicagoans to take to the streets Oct 27 for 'Out Now,' it's hardly 'news' and I seriously doubt if anyone would come, let alone run a story.
But add a few Members of Congress, Alderman, top labor leaders, CBO leaders with a long history here, as well as a few radicals, to deliver the same message, all out for 'Out Now' on the 27th, then at least you have a shot at getting some media coverage.
And thus a bigger turnout--it's a no-brainer to me.
Of course, one never knows.
Brittany may have another fender bender that day, or OJ might get busted for something, and the we're all scooped and marginalized for REAL NEWS!, even with our handful of politicians.
We'll see.