firstly, thank you to rachel, ann and other posters who have left completely sensible, intelligent remarks. and 'we need civil disobedience' is among those who very correctly calls davidson on his bluff about proposing another and more successful strategy. davidson, your 'strategy' isnt new, its what you were doing just days before the war.

on the issue of <b>daley at the immigrant rights rally</b>. actually, there was plenty of debate and dissension in letting daley speak, and he and a crony alderman were prevented from speaking at a later rally by those of us who have principles. the immigrants rights movement is as diverse politically as the anti-war one, so please dont make us out to be monolithic to suit your rhetorical ends.

as for your claims of non-partisanship and what not. firstly, were clinton and cheney invited? how is inviting pro-war senators and a pro-war mayor (he openly against the anti-war resolution and that is undeniable, and youre wrong in claiming he could have stopped it, as the original bog box/living wage ordinance vote proved) any different? and it is an endorsement. people see them on the stage, hear their lies and buy into it. you give them a place to lie to the people. thats an endorsement.

and are you really trying to organize a big and wider demonstration? will there be a sign language interpreter and a Spanish translater for every speaker? do you have literature in many languages? or is this more of the same 'center-left' tokenism?

have you invited governor blago? how about cook county president stroger?

and how broad can your base be if you are meeting during normal working hours?

as i said in a post in another thread, CAWI is spitting in our faces. let's spit back.