{just for clarification, I am not the first "in their own words" poster...I'm the person who posted the comment after Carl Davidson's}
To finne, who said,
"Its awful that so many of the people getting fucked over by this whole sick empire think that the only way they can look legitimate here is pander to the racists and "patriots" who want them to leave anyway."
Perhaps it's not pandering? Perhaps it's genuine sentiment on their part? I'm not denying what you said about the sick empire fucking people over. But the reality is that for many Mexican immigrants (legal or illegal), the US flag represents something positive. It doesn't for me, but whatever, it was their march, not mine.
I understand what you, and the OP, are getting at. But I think a criticism like the one you're both making would be better coming from within the immigrant community. I am going to go out on a limb and assume that you are a US citizen; assuming that's the case, you enjoy a certain position of privilege in this fucked-up society, whether you like it or not, and you do benefit from it; so it's arrogant for you to be condemning non-citizens asserting their rights for the manner in which they choose to do so.
At any rate it seems trifling to go on about these kinds of details when the real issue is the 12 million undocumented people in this country who deserve some kind of legal status.
Re: Initial Account of 150,000-worker May Day 2007
03 May 2007
Date Edited: 03 May 2007 10:06:10 AM
To finne, who said,
"Its awful that so many of the people getting fucked over by this whole sick empire think that the only way they can look legitimate here is pander to the racists and "patriots" who want them to leave anyway."
Perhaps it's not pandering? Perhaps it's genuine sentiment on their part? I'm not denying what you said about the sick empire fucking people over. But the reality is that for many Mexican immigrants (legal or illegal), the US flag represents something positive. It doesn't for me, but whatever, it was their march, not mine.
I understand what you, and the OP, are getting at. But I think a criticism like the one you're both making would be better coming from within the immigrant community. I am going to go out on a limb and assume that you are a US citizen; assuming that's the case, you enjoy a certain position of privilege in this fucked-up society, whether you like it or not, and you do benefit from it; so it's arrogant for you to be condemning non-citizens asserting their rights for the manner in which they choose to do so.
At any rate it seems trifling to go on about these kinds of details when the real issue is the 12 million undocumented people in this country who deserve some kind of legal status.