I applaud the VCNV women, too, 'ugh.'

But I also know how to assess what the vast majority of the antiwar movement is willing to do these days, regardless of your or my views.

Coming up with or demanding a plan that would draw very few followers doesn't make much sense, does it?

I'd actually prefer to have a situation where you were right and I was wrong about this, but I don't think it's in the cards right now.

You can always try it yourself, and see what develops. But I'd rather you didn't start pissing on our parade before it even happens. That doesn't help any of us.