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Re: IWW Starbucks Workers Union Expands to Chicago

Interesting debate here, I think.

Between 2nd Wave vs 3rd Wave workers (or industrial vs post-industrial) and the different priorities and value orientations.

The old IWW, of which I was once a member, with its OBU, was far-sighted among the 2nd Wave. But now, the IWW, and all unions for that matter, will have to find ways to adapt to the new work force of today and its concerns, or continue to fade.

Old dogmas won't do, folks. Time for some fresh ideas.

Good luck in any case.
 
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Re: Re: IWW Starbucks Workers Union Expands to Chicago

We're not really in a post-industrial period. The dominant industries have just changed from manufacturing to service. Therefore, an industrial union approach is still relevant and useful. It definitely has to adapt in other ways, though, namely to the broader culture of total fucking apathy (or open hostility) amongst people who really should be natural allies.
 

Re: Re: IWW Starbucks Workers Union Expands to Chicago

'Service' covers a lot, TQ, from selling Doritos at 7/11 to repairing mainframe industrial servers.

I think Toffler defined the measure of the tipping point to the 'third wave' to be when a majority of jobs entailed the manipulation of symbols rather than the manipulation of things.

Whatever you want to call it, we're not in the heyday of industrialism anymore.

In any case, many of today's young workers are not interested in long-term job security and regular hours, so much as they want flextime, training programs, mobility of health care, access to credit, discounted buying plans

Lifelong learning through a path of multiple careers--this is the main thrust. As an OBU model, the IWW might be in the best position to do something like this, but whatever union does, it will have a better chances to grow.

And, naturally, everone wants better wages and safer conditions.
 
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