I have worked for starbucks many times. You don't get enough hours - call some stores or they call you and you go and work there. Your manager is happy since the hours you work go on the other manager's labor costs. You get the hours. I never had problems finding hours. I know people did but i think its lack of effort. Any starbucks in the loop always needed people.
The issue usually would be a dumb manager who got promoted for no reason what so ever.
Organizing starbucks is only symbolic. you can pretend you are down with the people who work there but most people I talked to don't care.
The union is too unconventional and doesn't have experience to fight for healthcare and other issues.
Guaranteed hours will mean that less people will be employed. And less flexibility.
And what if I don't want to be full time? Will I be paying dues? will i still have barganing power.
Compared to other jobs I had starbucks has been the best. I had a flexible schedule, could pick up shifts and get some sort of healthcare.
You picked starbucks to organize - easy since many students work there and you can be on the same page as they are idealistic and all.
Try organizing fast food workers. Talking about crap jobs. Working afterhours, unsafe hot oil conditions and other fun stuff.
The problem at starbucks now is incompetence not really the need for a union.
1. The IWW did not target Starbucks and choose to organize it. Workers in each of the 8 union stores came to the IWW and learned how to organize for themselves. The workers in each shop decide how they want to organize, what their demands will be, and what actions to take to ensure that demands are met.
2. Sure, there is the possibility of picking up shifts at other stores, but why should workers have to scramble to do that? We should not have to worry about calling store after store to get the hours we need. We should not have to travel halfway across the city to pick up a shift when we should be able to work in our home stores. Every customer of the Logan Square Starbucks knows that the location is terribly understaffed. Thus, not only the workers suffer from lack of hours, but customers have to deal with longer lines and slower service because their baristas are worn out.
3. As for dues… they are $6 a month. That’s one less Venti Frappuccino per month to ensure legal protection for a basic human right. We work extremely hard and we are demanding that our rights be respected.
4. If workers at a fast food restaurant want to organize their shops, they can. But no one is going to step in and do it for them.
5. We ARE down with the people who work there because we ARE the people who work there.
6. We aren’t demanding that Starbucks make every worker full time. We are demanding the OPTION for full time status and guaranteed minimum hours, what that number is should be entirely up to the worker. We shouldn’t have to work second jobs to survive, one should be enough.
7. You are right about the IWW being unconventional… but that’s a positive thing! The IWW is a volunteer, democratically run union. No one is forced to join. It is non-hierarchal and there are no paid organizers. As a matter of fact, we are all organizers! We are all leaders!
…and as for our organizing skill… the Wobblies have been around for 101 years. If there is anything we have it is experience...
Re: IWW Starbucks Workers Union Expands to Chicago
02 Sep 2006
Date Edited: 02 Sep 2006 11:31:46 PM
The issue usually would be a dumb manager who got promoted for no reason what so ever.
Organizing starbucks is only symbolic. you can pretend you are down with the people who work there but most people I talked to don't care.
The union is too unconventional and doesn't have experience to fight for healthcare and other issues.
Guaranteed hours will mean that less people will be employed. And less flexibility.
And what if I don't want to be full time? Will I be paying dues? will i still have barganing power.
Compared to other jobs I had starbucks has been the best. I had a flexible schedule, could pick up shifts and get some sort of healthcare.
You picked starbucks to organize - easy since many students work there and you can be on the same page as they are idealistic and all.
Try organizing fast food workers. Talking about crap jobs. Working afterhours, unsafe hot oil conditions and other fun stuff.
The problem at starbucks now is incompetence not really the need for a union.
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Re: Re: IWW Starbucks Workers Union Expands to Chicago
03 Sep 2006
1. The IWW did not target Starbucks and choose to organize it. Workers in each of the 8 union stores came to the IWW and learned how to organize for themselves. The workers in each shop decide how they want to organize, what their demands will be, and what actions to take to ensure that demands are met.
2. Sure, there is the possibility of picking up shifts at other stores, but why should workers have to scramble to do that? We should not have to worry about calling store after store to get the hours we need. We should not have to travel halfway across the city to pick up a shift when we should be able to work in our home stores. Every customer of the Logan Square Starbucks knows that the location is terribly understaffed. Thus, not only the workers suffer from lack of hours, but customers have to deal with longer lines and slower service because their baristas are worn out.
3. As for dues… they are $6 a month. That’s one less Venti Frappuccino per month to ensure legal protection for a basic human right. We work extremely hard and we are demanding that our rights be respected.
4. If workers at a fast food restaurant want to organize their shops, they can. But no one is going to step in and do it for them.
5. We ARE down with the people who work there because we ARE the people who work there.
6. We aren’t demanding that Starbucks make every worker full time. We are demanding the OPTION for full time status and guaranteed minimum hours, what that number is should be entirely up to the worker. We shouldn’t have to work second jobs to survive, one should be enough.
7. You are right about the IWW being unconventional… but that’s a positive thing! The IWW is a volunteer, democratically run union. No one is forced to join. It is non-hierarchal and there are no paid organizers. As a matter of fact, we are all organizers! We are all leaders!
…and as for our organizing skill… the Wobblies have been around for 101 years. If there is anything we have it is experience...