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kurt such a troll he belong under a bridge

kurt, i almost welcome your spamming. almost. u offer better dialogue, and maybe even force us to explain more, talk more, a little bit of intellectual exercise.

lets stay specific. dhimma law was a sometimes humiliating and often discriminatory practice that the Moors and some other Islamic political systems enforced over non-Muslims, but at its core, it was about paternalism and limited tolerance, and included far more rights for the minority religions than christians carried out in the same period. the Moors were conquerors, something that us Anti-Imperialists are against, but they were far more honorable than most all European conquerors of their time. the spanish inquisition, on the other hand, was the christian genocide that forced Muslims and Jews to convert or die and was used against political dissidents as well, leaving between 30,000 and 135,000 dead. that was what the Spanish did to their own people.

and the Mexicas/Nahuas/Aztecs were not known to genocidally eliminate entire civilizations. ruthless, yes. conquerors, yes. but they were no where near on the scale of the European savages. and most nations/tribes that fell to the Inca actually did so peacefully. again, both were conquerors, but much more civil than the cruel white demons of Imperialist Europe.

and 'for crying out loud,' the 'it was 1492...it was the norm back then' defense is the stupidist, most incompetent AND ignorant irrational argument you could have possibly made. thats just stupid. people didnt somehow evolve morals and ethics since then. there were white europeans and many others around the world who were horrified at what was going on. what a simply stupid statement. so you excuse the African slave trade with that defense? roman crucifixion of christ was 2000 years ago, lynchings were back in the early 1900s, the nazi genocides were way back in the 1930s and 1940s. so lets just excuse every crime in history (and today) bcuz thats 'just what people did.'

finally, in response to your last two parts (i really do enjoy this, it forces us to think and articulate): first, if we should just respect Italian Americans right to celebrate on Columbus Day, then we should support German Americans right to celebrate on Hitler's Birthday. italy, a country we are taught extensively about in this country's farce of a school system, had many great heroes that were actually worth celebrating: garibaldi, tesca, malatesta, gramsci, spartacus (tho he wasnt actually italian).

and that protesting it is 'pathetic.' well, ill leave that up to the readers. but a man that created the carnage he is responsible for, that is an insult to celebrate him. altho perhaps it is very appropriate to do so in a country/Empire like the United States.
 
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