I feel as though tactical/evaluation discussions like these might be better held at a place where the CPD, FBI, etc can't see them.

But I have a few ideas, and I offer them here as nothing more than that. What if we focused less on big cities and more of the rural countryside? It's alot easier to outnumber the town sherrif than the CPD.
Another thought is, why do we still have people coming for protests prepared only for peaceful relaxed sermons? Everyone who came out saturday should have been prepared mentally, physically and otherwise to throw down and do whatever it took to get MIchigan ave.

I don't see a point in beating ourselves up to much over saturday though. Several anarchists with the feeder marches wanted to get to oak and michigan, but were unable to. I have some footage of the north side march trying to cut across the street to head east, but getting pushed back by some bike cops. By the time we were all together, the CPD had us surrounded. Even if we were to break away down a side street towards michigan ave- we would have had to break through police lines at least at every intersection. We had 3 half way decent banners, and not nearly enough militants ready and willing to attempt that.

Someone earlier on this thread made a comment about Palestinian children getting away, after throwing stones. I have to agree. One of the key rules of Guerrilla War is to strike, and to escape. Forget about major seiges until you've worn down the enemy to the point where you can realisticly accomplish it, and hold onto it for good.

It just seems to me that ever since Miami the best and most effective actions coming from people inside the Empire, have been those that occured in the dark of night, in small affinity groups, with ZERO publicity. Think ALF and ELF but focused against the state, the capitalist economy, the empire, and the war.

ONe last thing regarding numbers- one the long marches, we received many signs of support from the communities we passed though. I know a ton of people who wanted to be there but couldn't, the same way I know a ton of people who agreed with being anti-war but didn't like the idea of the rally. So you have to figure everyone there on saturday was like me and knew other people, so I would say as a conservative estimate, figure for every person there, you should really count them as 50-100 people.

Just a few comments for thought and debate.