Yes, by all means, Chris, put 'outreach' at the top of the list. Or you can call it plain old organizing.
Actually, I like to define 'outreach' as going to new people, making new friends and influencing them to come our way, especially people who are upset about the war, but might not agree with us on other issues or overall analysis. (Maybe it's because Dale Carnegie and I have a 6th Great Grandfather in common (that's both true and a joke!)).
And I'm sure Joe Moore doesn't mind being named in your criticisms. He's a big boy and can take the heat. And I love Brad Lytle. It was reading about him and the Quebec-to-Guatanamo CNVA peace walk he organized back when I was a student in the eary 1960s that inspired me to go on my very first peace action during the Cuba missile crisis.
And we all thought the slogans were just fine, and that the war and the threat to civil liberties are clearly linked, even if the cops behaved like Brownie scouts and let us do whatever we wanted M19.
It was the 'framing' that was a problem, framing that we didn't have that much control over. You're on target there, too. There were just too many people who wanted a peace march, would have preferred Mich Ave, but didn't particularly care which street it went down, but did not want to confront or fight with the cops over it in any case, at least not this time.
My point is, given this lay of the land and the relationship of forces, we took the tactical struggle over where we could assemble and pushed it as far as it could go. We still lost the skirmish and had to retreat. We learned some things in the process.
But let's blame Bush, the Patriot Act, Da Mare, Cop Commanders and Trainers with fantasies of Seattle on the brain, poodle judges and wimpy news media. Let's not blame each other. We can continue to discuss this as we move forward, but let's not get stuck or unduly divided on it.
I'll say one thing for Jan S, though. It took far more courage for her and Danny Davis to vote 'No' on funding the war than anything related to Senn, which we nonetheless continue to urge her to change her stand on. But even more, we need to put some heat on Luis, Bobby Rush, JJJ and a few others on voting 'No' on the war and war funding itself. It might help to retire Henry Hyde and defeat his GOP would-be successor in the next electoral round, too.
Re: People Protest War, Despite Cancellation of Constitutional Rights
21 Mar 2005
Date Edited: 21 Mar 2005 10:14:43 PM
Actually, I like to define 'outreach' as going to new people, making new friends and influencing them to come our way, especially people who are upset about the war, but might not agree with us on other issues or overall analysis. (Maybe it's because Dale Carnegie and I have a 6th Great Grandfather in common (that's both true and a joke!)).
And I'm sure Joe Moore doesn't mind being named in your criticisms. He's a big boy and can take the heat. And I love Brad Lytle. It was reading about him and the Quebec-to-Guatanamo CNVA peace walk he organized back when I was a student in the eary 1960s that inspired me to go on my very first peace action during the Cuba missile crisis.
And we all thought the slogans were just fine, and that the war and the threat to civil liberties are clearly linked, even if the cops behaved like Brownie scouts and let us do whatever we wanted M19.
It was the 'framing' that was a problem, framing that we didn't have that much control over. You're on target there, too. There were just too many people who wanted a peace march, would have preferred Mich Ave, but didn't particularly care which street it went down, but did not want to confront or fight with the cops over it in any case, at least not this time.
My point is, given this lay of the land and the relationship of forces, we took the tactical struggle over where we could assemble and pushed it as far as it could go. We still lost the skirmish and had to retreat. We learned some things in the process.
But let's blame Bush, the Patriot Act, Da Mare, Cop Commanders and Trainers with fantasies of Seattle on the brain, poodle judges and wimpy news media. Let's not blame each other. We can continue to discuss this as we move forward, but let's not get stuck or unduly divided on it.
I'll say one thing for Jan S, though. It took far more courage for her and Danny Davis to vote 'No' on funding the war than anything related to Senn, which we nonetheless continue to urge her to change her stand on. But even more, we need to put some heat on Luis, Bobby Rush, JJJ and a few others on voting 'No' on the war and war funding itself. It might help to retire Henry Hyde and defeat his GOP would-be successor in the next electoral round, too.