Carlos, you seem to be genuinely concerned about church, i.e., hierarchal, abuses toward women and gays. I would add the poor who are abused by people like Mother Theresa. No wonder she's Karl Wotija's kind of saint.
You may be part of a Catholic "family." I am not. But like it or not, and I don't, I am victimized by people like Pope Karl Wotija and Francis George and all but three of the bishops who voted to back the hateful antigay marriage amendment to the Constitution.
And George has worked behind the scenes, so far successfully, to block passage of SB 101, the gay rights bill in Springfield. When he first arrived in Chicago, he condemned the ordinance that gave some benefits to same sex city workers, calling it "pretended marriage." I heard him proclaim on TV that "neither the legislature nor the church can change the definition of marriage. That is set by god and natural law." There you have it, marriage according to the authoritarian mindset. All we are supposed to do is accept what is obvious to George and other medievalists. Don't think so.
I think these guys are desperate to change the subject from the pedophile scandal, and we gays are a convenient scapegoat.
Those of you who are inside the belly of this beast and want to help us who are assulted by the church, need to forcefully speak out, and maybe loudly break away from an institution that is not likely to jettison its medieval cult figure and authoritarian hierarchy in favor of rule by the laity that you appear to prefer.
You ought not lecture the victims of Catholic church bigotry on how we ought to proceed in winning our liberation.
Re: Catholic Priests Respond to Violent Language of Heirarchy Against Gays
22 Dec 2003
Date Edited: 22 Dec 2003 07:28:38 AM
You may be part of a Catholic "family." I am not. But like it or not, and I don't, I am victimized by people like Pope Karl Wotija and Francis George and all but three of the bishops who voted to back the hateful antigay marriage amendment to the Constitution.
And George has worked behind the scenes, so far successfully, to block passage of SB 101, the gay rights bill in Springfield. When he first arrived in Chicago, he condemned the ordinance that gave some benefits to same sex city workers, calling it "pretended marriage." I heard him proclaim on TV that "neither the legislature nor the church can change the definition of marriage. That is set by god and natural law." There you have it, marriage according to the authoritarian mindset. All we are supposed to do is accept what is obvious to George and other medievalists. Don't think so.
I think these guys are desperate to change the subject from the pedophile scandal, and we gays are a convenient scapegoat.
Those of you who are inside the belly of this beast and want to help us who are assulted by the church, need to forcefully speak out, and maybe loudly break away from an institution that is not likely to jettison its medieval cult figure and authoritarian hierarchy in favor of rule by the laity that you appear to prefer.
You ought not lecture the victims of Catholic church bigotry on how we ought to proceed in winning our liberation.